Guide to the John W. Gardner Legacy Oral History Project SC1355

Emma Frothingham
Stanford Historical Society Oral History Program
Department of Special Collections and University Archives
March 2021
Green Library
557 Escondido Mall
Stanford 94305-6064
specialcollections@stanford.edu
Collection contains two series of oral history interviews


Language of Material: English
Contributing Institution: Department of Special Collections and University Archives
Title: John W. Gardner Legacy Oral History Project
Identifier/Call Number: SC1355
Physical Description: 19148.8 megabyte(s)
Date (inclusive): 2017-2021
Language of Material: English
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Biographical / Historical

John W. Gardner (1912-2002) earned his BA and MA degrees in psychology from Stanford and a PhD in psychology from University of California, Berkeley. He remained connected to his alma mater throughout his illustrious career, serving on Stanford's Board of Trustees from 1968 to 1982. As the president of the Carnegie Corporation of New York from 1955 to 1967, he became known as "one of the most powerful behind-the-scenes figures in education." Gardner served as Lyndon B. Johnson's Secretary of Health, Education, and Welfare (HEW) from 1965 to 1968. He founded two influential public advocacy groups, Common Cause (1970) and Independent Sector (1980). Gardner spent the last thirteen years of his life at Stanford. He was a founding member of the national advisory board of the Public Service Center (later the Haas Center for Public Service) and the first Miriam and Peter Haas Centennial Professor in Public Service. The John Gardner Public Service Fellowship and the John W. Gardner Center for Youth and Their Communities are just two examples of Gardner's lasting legacy at Stanford and beyond.

Preferred Citation

[identification of item], John W. Gardner Legacy Oral History Project (SC1355). Department of Special Collections and University Archives, Stanford University Libraries, Stanford, Calif.

Scope and Contents

Series 1 of the collection contains oral history interviews with friends, family, and colleagues of John W. Gardner. Participants reflected on the imapact Gardner's work had on their own lives and American soceity. Series 2 of the collection contains interviews with alumni of the John Gardner Public Service Fellowship. It also includes a group interview with founders of the John Gardner Fellowship Association.

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Subjects and Indexing Terms

Oral history
Leadership
Civil soceity
Mentoring
Gardner, John W. (John William)
John Gardner Fellowship Association

 

John W. Gardner Legacy Interviews 2017-2020

Physical Description: 58 Files

Scope and Contents

This series contains 58 interviews conducted between 2017 and 2020 with individuals who knew John W. Gardner. Most interviews include an audio recording and a transcript.
 

Baumgartner, Roberta M. "Bobbi" 2018-04-04

Bobbi Baumgartner - Recordings
Bobbi Baumgartner - Transcript

Creator: Baumgartner, Roberta M. "Bobbi"
Creator: Mancini, Nancy
Abstract: Roberta M. "Bobbi" Baumgartner, who is retired from her work as an executive assistant at Stanford University, served as John W. Gardner's personal assistant from 1990 to 1997 at the Stanford Graduate School of Business and the School of Education. She discusses her connection to Stanford growing up and the development of her close working relationship with Gardner. She recounts different aspects of working for him and her memories of him as an employer, mentor, teacher, author, public figure, and family man.
 

Bortz, Walter M. 2017-04-26

Wally Bortz - Recordings
Wally Bortz - Transcript

Creator: Bortz, Walter M. "Wally"
Creator: Abel, Suzanne
Abstract: Dr. Walter Bortz, an emeritus adjunct clinical professor at the Stanford University School of Medicine and a leading expert on aging, reflects on his early life, his move to California, his career in the field of geriatrics, and his interactions with John W. Gardner after Gardner returned to Stanford.
 

Butler, Lewis H. 2018-05-09

Lewis Butler - Recordings
Lewis Butler - Transcript

Creator: Butler, Lewis.
Creator: Abel, Suzanne
Abstract: Lewis H. "Lew" Butler discusses growing up in San Francisco, his long and productive career in public service, and his personal and professional relationship with John W. Gardner. Butler talks about growing up in San Francisco, and discusses how World War II affected his life. He went to MIT, enlisted after a year, and then went to Oregon State and Princeton. He recounts stories from those years and reflects on his decision to attend Stanford Law School, where he met his wife, Sheana Wohlford Butler. Butler discusses leaving his job as a corporate lawyer in San Francisco to work for the Peace Corps in Malaysia and his work after returning from Malaysia, when he consulted for the Ford Foundation and started an environmental law firm with Paul N. "Pete" McCloskey. He also discusses working with William Evers to start the Planning and Conservation League. As a one-time member of the Bohemian Club, Butler met Gardner there for the first time, a meeting which he recounts. He also recalls reading Gardner's early books. After working on the transition team when Robert Finch became the secretary of Health, Education, and Welfare, he stayed on as the assistant secretary for planning and evaluation. He remembers seeking Gardner's advice on how to do the best work at HEW during this time. Butler talks about the protests over the Kent State killings and the ensuing appointment of Elliot Richardson as secretary, under whom he worked on national health insurance. He discusses teaching law at Berkeley for a year after leaving HEW, and then working with Philip R. Lee on founding the Institute for Health Policy Studies at UCSF in 1972, which led him to move from Washington, DC. Butler recounts returning to California and joining the board of the Public Service Center at Stanford University, where he worked with Gardner and Peter E. Haas, among others. He also discusses his work on preserving the Presidio, the Butler Koshland Fellowship program, and as a board member for California Tomorrow. He concludes by reflecting on Gardner's life, noting his powerful leadership and unique mentorship style, emphasizing his modesty above all else.
 

Cacciotti, Jerry 2019-01-03

Jerry Cacciotti - Recordings
Jerry Cacciotti - Transcript

Creator: Cacciotti, Jerry
Creator: Wyman, Lyn
Abstract: Jerry Cacciotti (1985 BA International Relations; 1990 MBA) shares memories of his early life and career and reflects on the impact of his year as a member of the first class of John Gardner Fellows, the advice he received from John Gardner, and the mission of the John Gardner Fellowship Association. Cacciotti begins by describing his childhood in Salinas, California, his parents' careers in public service, and his early involvement in politics. He shares memories of his study abroad experiences while at Stanford, his involvement with LGBTQ+ student groups on campus, and how he came to apply for the John Gardner Public Service Fellowship in 1985. During his fellowship year, Cacciotti worked on the staff of Lee Hamilton (D-IN) in the US House of Representatives. He shares memories of working with Hamilton both as a fellow and as his personal press secretary. He describes bonding with other John Gardner Fellows and communicates some of the advice that Gardner gave him over the years as well as Gardner's approach to mentoring. He concludes the interview by describing the formation and evolution of the John Gardner Fellowship Association and reflecting on Gardner's legacy.
 

Clever, Linda Hawes 2017-07-21-2017-08-29

Linda Hawes Clever - Recordings
Linda Hawes Clever - Transcript

Creator: Clever, Linda Hawes
Creator: Feder, Abby
Abstract: Linda Hawes Clever, MD, MACP, founding president of RENEW and a clinical professor at University of California-San Francisco, discusses her long friendship with John W. Gardner and his family, spanning over thirty years from coast to coast. Dr. Clever speaks of Gardner's role in the founding of her not-for-profit organization, RENEW; her role on the founding board of Independent Sector; her admiration for Gardner's work; and her personal friendship with him. She also discusses her friendship with his wife, Aida, after his death, and her family's continued friendship with his daughters and grandchildren.
 

Cruz, Nadinne 2017-06-10-2017-06-11

Nadinne Cruz - Recordings
Nadinne Cruz - Transcript

Creator: Cruz, Nadinne I., 1948-
Creator: Abel, Suzanne
Abstract: Nadinne Cruz, former executive director at the Higher Education Consortium for Urban Affairs and former director of the Haas Center for Public Service at Stanford, discusses her early life in the Philippines; her career in public service, education, and activism; and her friendship with John W. Gardner. Cruz recounts stories from her early interactions with Gardner during meetings of the National Advisory Board of the Haas Center, noting his patience, ability to navigate difficult situations, and humility. She talks about the friendship that they developed despite coming from very different backgrounds and the conversations that they had about the idea of common cause, how to understand the public good, and the importance of community-building. She expresses her belief that studying the example of leadership that Gardner set is more important than simply looking at his writings or ideas.
 

DeBusk, Ann 2017-07-13

Ann DeBusk - Recordings
Ann DeBusk - Transcript

Creator: DeBusk, Ann
Creator: Mancini, Nancy
Abstract: Ann DeBusk, a longtime friend and mentee of John W. Gardner, shares memories of him and the advice he gave her. DeBusk begins by speaking about her youth and college education in the Pacific Northwest before arriving at Stanford to complete her graduate work at the Graduate School of Education. She describes meeting Gardner through her friendship with Gardner's daughter, Francesca (Checka). DeBusk goes on to talk about her work with Leadership Palo Alto and the Silicon Valley chapter of the American Leadership Forum, as well as the guidance Gardner provided as she became involved with the two organizations. She also describes working on the advisory board of the John W. Gardner Center for Youth and Their Communities. She concludes the interview by sharing stories of her friendship with Gardner and his wife, Aida.
 

DeBusk, Robert F. 2017-07-03-2017-09-14

Robert DeBusk - Recordings
Robert DeBusk - Transcript

Creator: DeBusk, Robert F., MD
Creator: Mancini, Nancy
Creator: Marine-Street, Natalie Jean
Abstract: In this interview, Robert F. DeBusk, MD, shares memories of his friend John W. Gardner and reflects on Gardner's legacy. DeBusk, a professor emeritus of cardiology at Stanford, speaks briefly about his undergraduate years at Stanford and describes the circumstances that led him to a career in cardiology. He talks about the friendship he and his wife, Ann, developed with John and Aida Gardner upon the Gardners' return to California from Washington, DC. He offers insights into Gardner's character and personality, describes his involvement with the Silicon Valley chapter of the American Leadership Forum, and recalls the waning days of Gardner's life.
 

Ehrlich, Thomas 2017-05-03

Thomas Ehrlich - Recordings
Thomas Ehrlich - Transcript

Creator: Ehrlich, Thomas
Creator: Mancini, Nancy
Abstract: Thomas Ehrlich discusses his career and his friendship with John W. Gardner. Ehrlich recounts stories from his early years at Stanford as a professor of law, including troubles with university president Kenneth Pitzer. He discusses his early conversations with Gardner regarding the dearth of law students going into public service, an issue Ehrlich attempted to remedy when he was dean of the law school. He also talks about Gardner's legacy in the context of his written works, including Excellence, as well as the establishment of the John W. Gardner Center for Youth and Their Communities. On a personal level, Ehrlich expresses his appreciation for Gardner's mentorship style, which focused on offering encouragement instead of dictating advice.
 

Fox, Sean 2017-09-13

Sean Fox - Recordings
Sean Fox - Transcript

Creator: Fox, Sean
Creator: Feder, Abby
Abstract: Sean Fox, co-president of Freedom Financial and a former John Gardner Public Service Fellow, discusses growing up in rural Washington, studying as an undergraduate at Stanford University, being mentored by John W. Gardner, and his career in law, business, and policy. While in high school, Fox received the Young American Medal for Service for starting a food bank in his hometown, Toledo, and he discusses how this fueled his passion for public service. He talks about his time at Stanford, where he majored in economics and political science. He discusses his involvement in public service and policy issues at Stanford, including tutoring students in the Ravenswood school district, working in Senator Timothy Wirth's office through the Stanford in Washington program, and volunteering through the Haas Center for Public Service. He recounts his memories from a class on leadership taught by Gardner. He also reflects on Gardner's centennial commencement address at Stanford in 1991. Fox talks about working at the World Resources Institute on issues related to climate change as a John Gardner Public Service Fellow. He discusses his experiences being mentored by Gardner, and recalls being struck by Gardner's encouraging and humble nature. He also recounts stories from his involvement in the documentary, John Gardner: Uncommon American. Fox discusses working on antitrust at the Department of Justice, and then returning to work with Jutvision in Palo Alto before starting Freedom Financial. He then reflects on his role in helping to found the John Gardner Fellowship Association and the importance of the fellowship network.
 

Freedman, Marc 2019-07-12

Marc Freedman - Recordings
Marc Freedman - Transcript

Creator: Freedman, Marc
Creator: Schmidt-Posner, Jackie
Abstract: Marc Freedman is the president, CEO, and founder of Encore.org, an organization that seeks to foster intergenerational collaboration and solutions to social problems. He recalls the origins of the Experience Corps, highlighting John W. Gardner's early thinking about mobilizing the skills of senior citizens for social good and the role Gardner played in launching the program. Throughout the interview, he shares memories and impressions of Gardner while reflecting on his legacy and its continuing relevance.
 

Gaither, James C. 2019-01-29

James Gaither - Recordings
James Gaither - Transcript

Creator: Gaither, James C.
Creator: Marine-Street, Natalie Jean
Abstract: James C. Gaither shares memories of his interactions with John W. Gardner during the Lyndon B. Johnson administration when Gardner was the Secretary of Health, Education, and Welfare and Gaither worked in Joe Califano's office on the legislative agenda. He also offers thoughts on the work of Wilbur Cohen, Gardner's deputy. Gaither recalls his father's collaboration with Gardner during the McCarthy hearings when the two men worked to defend foundations accused of harboring communists and speaks about the time that he and Gardner overlapped on Stanford's Board of Trustees.
 

Geballe, Frances "Sissy" 2017-04-05

Frances Geballe - Transcript

Creator: Geballe, Frances "Sissy"
Creator: Mancini, Nancy
Abstract: Frances "Sissy" Geballe, a longtime supporter of the Haas Center for Public Service, shares memories of John W. Gardner and public service at Stanford. Geballe recalls Stanford President Don Kennedy's dedication to public service and the founding of the Haas Center for Public Service, named after her cousin, Walter Haas, Jr. She also speaks about her personal connection to the University of California, Berkeley, and how important it was to her that Berkeley students were included in the John Gardner Fellowship Program. She recalls Gardner's dedication to service and philanthropy, which inspired members of her family.

Conditions Governing Access

Audio recordings are not available
 

Gerstein, Amy 2018-12-10

Amy Gerstein - Recordings
Amy Gerstein - Transcript

Creator: Gerstein, Amy
Creator: Abel, Suzanne
Abstract: Amy Gerstein, executive director of the John W. Gardner Center for Youth and Their Communities at Stanford's Graduate School of Education, speaks about the role the center plays in the Bay Area community and how it tries to carry on Gardner's legacy. Gerstein also shares information about her own background: growing up in a community where civic engagement was the norm, her path into education via Ted Sizer and the Essential Schools movement, and the circumstances that led her to attend graduate school in education at Stanford and become involved with the Gardner Center.
 

Gregg, Robert C. 2018-07-25

Robert C. Gregg - Recordings
Robert C. Gregg - Transcript

Creator: Gregg, Robert C.
Creator: Prabhu, Anirudh
Abstract: Robert C. "Bob" Gregg, former dean for religious life at Stanford University, discusses his friendship with John W. Gardner and their participation in a lunch discussion group known as the "lunch bunch." Members of the group also included Melvin Lane, Arjay Miller, Roger Heyns, Walter Hewlett, and Herant Katchadourian. Gregg recalls meeting Gardner through their involvement in the Haas Center for Public Service. Their friendship deepened when Gregg joined the lunch bunch in 1999. He recounts conversations about a wide range of topics, including the thought processes of famous leaders, conflicts within the boards of major corporations, and social controversies. He talks about a specific conversation he had with Gardner about President Lyndon B. Johnson's decision to support the Civil Rights Act. Gregg describes Gardner as open-minded and humble, yet forthright about the issues that were important to him. He also discusses Gardner's practical focus and his desire to activate the spirit of action in all people.
 

Haas, Mimi 2018-04-30

Mimi Haas - Recordings
Mimi Haas - Transcript

Creator: Haas, Miriam Lurie "Mimi"
Creator: Abel, Suzanne
Abstract: Mimi Haas describes her parents' experience as refugees from Yugoslavia and shares memories of her youth in the Washington, DC, area. She recalls hearing about John W. Gardner and Common Cause during her adolescence and how she later became friends with Gardner and his wife, Aida, after marrying the late Peter E. Haas and joining the Bay Area social scene. Peter and Mimi Haas generously supported the founding of the Gardner Fellowship program at Stanford and UC Berkeley, and they later created the endowed chair that brought Gardner back to Stanford in 1989. The couple also were instrumental in the founding of the Haas Center for Public Service at Stanford. Haas concludes the interview by expressing admiration for Gardner and his life's work in public service.
 

Hanson, Kirk O. 2018-10-14

Kirk Hanson - Recordings
Kirk Hanson - Transcript

Creator: Hanson, Kirk O.
Creator: Abel, Suzanne
Abstract: Kirk Hanson shares memories of his time at Stanford, his career studying business ethics and responsibility, and his relationship with John W. Gardner. Hanson describes his family's roots in San Francisco and how his religious upbringing led to an interest in ethics. He recalls his undergraduate years at Stanford in the 1960s and working for Hewlett Packard during the summer, as well as returning to Stanford's Graduate School of Business as a student and later lecturer and senior lecturer. Hanson became aware of Gardner through his writings and reputation, and the two men developed a friendship when they were office neighbors in the GSB's Littlefield Management Center. Hanson discusses Gardner's legacy, his belief in the power of collective institutions, and his place in Silicon Valley history.
 

Hastorf, Barbara 2017-09-01-2017-09-12

Barbara Hastorf - Recordings
Barbara Hastorf - Transcript

Creator: Hastorf, Barbara
Creator: Feder, Abby
Abstract: Barbara Hastorf discusses growing up in New York and New Jersey, taking a class with John W. Gardner while she was a student at Mount Holyoke College, and reconnecting with him when she moved with her family to Palo Alto. At Mount Holyoke College, Hastorf majored in economics and took an introductory psychology course with Gardner. She offers her recollections on that class and remembers Gardner as an open-minded and pleasant professor. Hastorf also discusses meeting with Gardner once she came to Stanford with her husband, Albert Hastorf, who was also a psychologist.
 

Joss, Robert L. 2019-10-28

Bob Joss - Recordings
Bob Joss - Transcript

Creator: Joss, Robert Law
Creator: Mancini, Nancy
Abstract: Robert Joss, former dean of Stanford's Graduate School of Business, shares memories of John W. Gardner and reflects on Gardner's abilities as a writer, teacher, and leader. Joss describes first meeting Gardner when Joss served as a White House Fellow in the late 1960s and recalls later renewing their relationship when Joss came to the GSB as dean and Gardner was teaching at Stanford's Graduate School of Education. He remembers how Gardner encouraged him to begin teaching a leadership course at the GSB and talks about Gardner's continuing relevance and legacy today.
 

Kennedy, Robin 2017-06-10

Robin Kennedy - Recordings
Robin Kennedy - Transcript

Creator: Kennedy, Robin Hamill.
Creator: Mancini, Nancy
Abstract: Robin Kennedy, a lawyer and the wife of former Stanford president Donald Kennedy, discusses her early interest in politics, meeting John W. Gardner for the first time in Washington, DC, and her friendship with Gardner after he returned to Stanford in 1989. Kennedy recounts how her mother's involvement with the Democratic Party sparked her interest in politics at a young age. She explains how this love for government led her to declare the public policy major at Stanford. While interning in Washington, DC, as an undergraduate, she met Gardner for the first time and was struck by his genuine interest in the students' intellectual interests and ambitions, especially in his support of the aspirations of her and her female classmates. She further recalls Gardner's eloquence, positive public presence, and his passion for public service. Kennedy concludes by expressing her appreciation for Gardner's support for her husband during his time as president of Stanford University.
 

Kilberg, Bobbie & Bill 2019-09-21

Bobbie and Bill Kilberg - Recordings
Bobbie and Bill Kilberg - Transcript

Creator: Kilberg, Barbara G. (Barbara Greene), 1944-
Creator: Kilberg, William J.
Creator: Abel, Suzanne
Abstract: Bobbie Greene Kilberg and Bill Kilberg describe their education, their selection as members of the White House Fellows Class of 1969-1970, and their fellowships in the White House and the Labor Department. They share memories of the relationship they formed with John W. Gardner as a result of the fellowship, reflect on Gardner's philosophy and his legacy, and speak about their involvement with the White House Fellows over the years. Bobbie Kilberg also speaks briefly about her time on the board of Common Cause.
 

Kirst, Michael W. 2018-05-03

Mike Kirst - Recordings
Mike Kirst - Transcript

Creator: Kirst, Michael W.
Creator: Mancini, Nancy
Abstract: Michael W. "Mike" Kirst, president of the California State Board of Education and an emeritus professor of education at Stanford University, discusses his early career in government, teaching education at Stanford University, and his personal and professional relationship with John W. Gardner. Upon graduating from the Kennedy School of Government at Harvard, Kirst worked for a task force on education led by Gardner during Lyndon B. Johnson's administration, and he recounts stories from that time, including meeting with President Johnson to offer a cost estimate for the task force's recommendations. He later became the associate director of the White House Fellowship, and recalls that Gardner was very involved in shaping the experience of the fellows. After working in the Johnson administration and then in the Senate, Kirst came to Stanford to teach in the School of Education, and he discusses making that shift. Upon Gardner's return to Stanford in 1989, their families would frequently have dinner together. He fondly recalls those dinners and recounts stories from that time. He also comments on Aida Gardner's personality and the enduring strength of her marriage to John Gardner. Other topics include Gardner's emphasis on the importance of government, his focus late in his career on the power of local government, his belief in the need for campaign finance reform, and hiring Milbrey McLaughlin as the founding director for the Gardner Center for Youth and Their Communities.
 

Kirst, Wendy 2018-10-10

Wendy Kirst - Recordings
Wendy Kirst - Transcript

Creator: Kirst, Wendy
Creator: Mancini, Nancy
Abstract: Wendy Kirst shares memories of the times that she and John W. Gardner crossed paths during his lifetime. She begins by describing her youth in Chicago, her college education at Smith, and her time in secretarial school. Kirst then recalls how she was hired to work as "secretary number two" for Gardner when he was at the Urban Coalition and describes following him to Common Cause. Years later, Kirst reconnected with Gardner when he moved back to Stanford and into a house near the Kirsts. She shares details of hosting Gardner's 80th birthday party and memories of Gardner and his wife, Aida.
 

Kouzes, Jim 2018-07-31

Jim Kouzes - Recordings
Jim Kouzes - Transcript

Creator: Kouzes, James M., 1945-
Creator: Prabhu, Anirudh
Abstract: James M. "Jim" Kouzes discusses his early life and career, his work in the field of leadership studies, his interactions with John W. Gardner, and how Gardner influenced his work. Kouzes recalls growing up in an army family in Maryland and Virginia where frequent visits to Washington, DC, sparked his early interest in government and led him to pursue an undergraduate degree in political science at Michigan State University. He discusses being strongly influenced by John F. Kennedy's call to public service, which led him to join the Peace Corps. Turning to his career in leadership studies, Kouzes describes founding the Joint Center for Human Services Development at San Jose State University, and his transition to Santa Clara University. At Santa Clara, he met Barry Posner, with whom he would coauthor several books, including the award-winning best seller The Leadership Challenge. Kouzes notes that he first became familiar with Gardner when he read Self-Renewal in the 1960s. Reflecting on the impact that Gardner's ideas have had on his work, Kouzes discusses several common themes, including the democratization of leadership, the importance of credibility, respect for diversity, and the role that feedback plays. He describes Gardner as an exemplary leader, who was both gracious and generous. Kouzes concludes by encouraging people in leadership roles to read Gardner's work.
 

Lambert, Jane Lynch 2017-09-27

Janet Lynch Lambert - Recordings
Janet Lynch Lambert - Transcript

Creator: Lambert, Janet Lynch
Creator: Abel, Suzanne
Abstract: Janet Lynch Lambert discusses her experience as a member of the first class of John W. Gardner Fellows in 1985 and provides details about her background and her career in the public and private sector. Lambert begins by speaking about her youth in Omaha, Nebraska, her parents, and her interest in politics, policy, and government. She describes how she came to Stanford as an undergraduate in the early 1980s and recalls how her academic advisor Condoleezza Rice encouraged her to apply for the new John W. Gardner Fellowship as she neared graduation. Lambert describes her fellowship year during which she worked in the office of Colorado Senator Gary Hart in Washington, DC. She also shares memories of her friendships with the other fellows. In the final part of the interview, Lambert describes her career in health policy and the lessons she took away from her fellowship. She shares memories of John W. Gardner in his later years and describes how his work and philosophy inspired her. She concludes by discussing her involvement with the John Gardner Fellowship Association.
 

Lane, Joan Fletcher 2017-07-10

Joan Lane - Recordings
Joan Lane - Transcript

Creator: Lane, Joan Fletcher
Creator: Schofield, Susan W.
Abstract: Joan Lane offers her impressions of John Gardner and comments on Gardner's friendship with her late husband, Melvin B. Lane. According to Lane, Gardner and Mel Lane were both members of the Bohemian Club and spent time together at the Sempervirens camp at the Bohemian Grove every summer. When Gardner decided to retire from the Bohemian Club, Mel Lane set up the "lunch bunch" so that Gardner and a small group of friends could meet for lunch once a month and not lose contact. Reflecting on Gardner's impact on her husband, Lane remarks that Gardner set high standards and encouraged him to go beyond the bounds of his work at Lane Publishing and become engaged with community affairs. Lane credits Gardner, as a Stanford trustee, with a deep understanding of the anger and alienation students were feeling in the 1960s, and in response instigating the move of trustee meetings to the campus from more remote San Francisco, and devising the system by which alumni trustees were brought onto the board to increase youth and diversity. She also expresses admiration for Gardner's wife, Aida, and his daughter Francesca (Checka), and speaks briefly about her own service as a member of the board of the John Gardner Center for Youth and Their Families. A great personal admirer of John Gardner and his writings, Lane closes by suggesting she may go back and read his books again.
 

LeCuyer, Jack 2019-04-05

Jack LeCuyer - Recordings
Jack LeCuyer - Transcript

Creator: LeCuyer, Jack A.
Creator: Mancini, Nancy
Abstract: Jack LeCuyer describes how the White House Fellows Foundation and Association has changed over the years and his work as executive director from 1996 to 1999 and provides his impressions of John W. Gardner as a leader. Of special note is LeCuyer's description of an important 1999 meeting at which Gardner urged him to ensure the fellows worked to develop a community of mutual support and mentorship. Other topics include LeCuyer's description of his youth in Greeley, Colorado; his education at Tufts University and West Point, his military service, and his participation in the Olmstead Scholarship Program, including time spent in Florence, Italy.
 

McLaughlin, Milbrey W. 2017-02-21-2017-03-28

Milbrey McLaughlin - Recordings
Milbrey McLaughlin - Transcript

Creator: McLaughlin, Milbrey Wallin
Creator: Abel, Suzanne
Abstract: Milbrey McLaughlin, the David Jack Professor Emeritus of Education and Public Policy, shares her memories of working with John W. Gardner and describes aspects of her career in the field of education policy, including the founding of the John W. Gardner Center for Youth and Their Communities. McLaughlin describes how an experience as a college admissions representative who visited high schools throughout the country led to an epiphany about disparities in education and fueled her interest in policy work. She describes the circumstances that led her to leave the RAND Corporation for a position at Stanford's Graduate School of Education in 1983 and speaks about establishing the federally funded Center for Research on the Context of Teaching when Mike Smith was the dean of the GSE. Turning to John W. Gardner, McLaughlin describes the founding of the John Gardner Fellowship Program and the John W. Gardner Center for Youth and Their Communities. She describes the importance of the John W. Gardner Center and why its mission mattered to John Gardner and talks about the Youth Data Archive project that the center initiated. She concludes the interview by sharing memories of Gardner and reflecting on his character and legacy.
 

Meléndez, Sara 2018-04-19

Sara Meléndez - Recordings
Sara Meléndez - Transcript

Creator: Meléndez, Sara
Creator: Abel, Suzanne
Abstract: Sara Meléndez, president and CEO of Independent Sector from 1994 to 2002, reflects on her career in public service and her time at Independent Sector. Meléndez begins the interview by discussing her early years in Puerto Rico and her family's immigration to New York. She recalls the difficulty of transitioning from a rural part of Puerto Rico to urban New York City, her family's struggles to establish themselves, and the sacrifices they made. She also fondly recalls her early love of education, learning, and libraries. Following her mother's death in her last weeks of high school, Meléndez attended Brooklyn College, where she earned a degree in English. After a brief marriage and return to Puerto Rico, she describes working as a secretary in New York to support her young son. She eventually transitioned to teaching as part of a bilingual program in Brooklyn. She describes her decision to continue her education at Harvard as part of a Ford Foundation fellowship for minorities and how Harvard opened doors for her. She goes on to describe her post-Harvard career in the Office of Minority Concerns at the American Council on Education with Reginald Wilson, as vice provost at University of Bridgeport, as CEO of the Center for Applied Linguistics, and finally as the CEO of Independent Sector. In the latter part of the interview, Meléndez describes meeting John W. Gardner and fondly recalls the working partnership of Gardner and Brian O'Connell. She describes how she viewed the important work of Independent Sector and recalls Independent Sector's interactions with various politicians at the time. She concludes the interview by sharing memories of John Gardner and the planning of his memorial services.
 

Miller, Arjay 2017-03-28

Arjay Miller - Recordings
Arjay Miller - Transcript

Creator: Miller, Arjay.
Creator: Mancini, Nancy
Abstract: Rawley John "Arjay" Miller, Jr., who was the president of the Ford Motor Company and later served as the dean of the Stanford Graduate School of Business, discusses his early life in Nebraska, studying economics at UCLA, his career at Ford and at Stanford, and his close friendship with John W. Gardner. Topics covered include Miller's role as one of the ten "Whiz Kids" at Ford in the post-war era, his decision to accept the deanship at Stanford, and his belief in the importance of business and philanthropy to Stanford's future. He recounts several specific stories regarding his relationship with John W. Gardner, including his reflections on reading Self-Renewal, Gardner asking him to spend more time on Common Cause, memories from Gardner's so- called "lunch bunch," and Gardner's decision to turn down Lyndon B. Johnson's request that he run for the Senate. Miller expresses his deep admiration for Gardner's ability to inspire, comparing his mastery over language to none other than William Shakespeare. He makes the case that Stanford should more formally recognize Gardner's contributions.
 

Milton, Catherine 2017-04-11-2017-06-29

Catherine Milton - Recordings
Catherine Milton - Transcript

Creator: Milton, Catherine H.
Creator: Abel, Suzanne
Abstract: Catherine Milton shares memories of her youth on the East Coast and her college years at Mount Holyoke. Milton describes how John F. Kennedy's "Ask not what your country can do for you--ask what you can do for your country" speech inspired her to become involved in public service and policy. She also recalls how witnessing injustice in the Jim Crow-era South inspired her to use her career to address problems in the world. Milton describes the trajectory of her early career, which eventually led her to Washington, DC. She recalls meeting her future husband Tom McBride and their shared passion for public service and comments briefly on McBride's work in the Peace Corps and with Bobby Kennedy. Milton also describes meeting future Stanford president, Donald Kennedy while in DC and how he later paved the way for Milton and McBride to come to Stanford. Milton recalls the lack of attention to public policy and public service at Stanford upon her arrival and tells the story of the founding of the Public Service Center, later the Haas Center for Public Service. She remembers meeting John W. Garner for the first time and speaks about his mentorship both during her years at Stanford and later when she returned to Washington, DC. Milton describes the founding of the John Gardner Fellowship Program at Stanford and Berkeley. She concludes the interview by sharing memories of Gardner and advice he gave her as well as thoughts on his legacy.
 

Moguel, David 2017-12-19

David Moguel - Recordings
David Moguel - Transcript

Creator: Moguel, David L., 1965-
Creator: Abel, Suzanne
Abstract: David L. Moguel, professor of secondary education at California State University, Northridge, and co-president of the John Gardner Fellowship Association, discusses growing up with immigrant parents in Los Angeles, studying as an undergraduate student at Stanford, and working in the San Francisco Unified School District as a John Gardner Public Service Fellow. He also discusses the trajectory of his career, including attending the Kennedy School of Government at Harvard, pursuing a presidential management fellowship in Washington, teaching in South-Central LA, getting his PhD at UCLA, and working on reforming teacher preparation. Moguel talks about the public service environment at Stanford when he was an undergraduate student, including his work at El Centro Chicano y Latino and the beginnings of the Haas Center. He recounts his first meeting with John W. Gardner after he secured the fellowship opportunity. Moguel also discusses the current state of the fellowship and the fellowship association, how to articulate Gardner's legacy to future fellows who did not know him personally, and the importance of Gardner's concept of renewal.
 

Needle, Lorne 2017-08-30

Lorne Needle - Recordings
Lorne Needle - Transcript

Creator: Needle, Lorne
Creator: Feder, Abby
Abstract: Lorne Needle, a John Gardner Fellow in 1987, shares his memories of a career in public service and the mentorship John W. Gardner provided. Needle begins by describing his early years in Los Angeles and a subsequent move to Connecticut for his father's job at IBM. He recalls his decision to return to California for college and how he chose Stanford. Needle recalls first becoming engaged in his high school community and how thankful he was to attend Stanford with support from a scholarship from IBM. While initially unsure about what to major in, Needle eventually decided to major in public policy. While an undergraduate student, Needle became involved with the Public Service Center, now the Haas Center for Public Service. Through the Public Service Center, he spent much of his undergraduate career launching and working with the East Palo Alto Stanford Academy [EPASA]. Needle recalls his initial reluctance at working with children, but how he eventually fell in love with it and was grateful for the support of the Public Service Center. Needle also shares memories of some of the people active at the Public Service Center in its early years, including Catherine Milton. Needle describes his awe at meeting John W. Gardner for the first time at an event held by the Center. Later, with Milton's encouragement, Needle decided to apply for the John Gardner Fellowship Program. Needle goes on to describe his fellowship year at Public/Private Ventures working to build youth programs in Philadelphia. He recalls his initial boredom and fear in the position before finding his footing and, as Needle describes it, "learning leadership." He went on to work for the South Baltimore Youth Center and the Maryland Low Income Housing Coalition. Needle recalls visiting Gardner in Washington, DC, during these years to seek Gardner's advice. Despite Gardner's fear of losing him to Wall Street and the business world, Needle returned to Stanford to attend the Graduate School of Business. Needle recalls his relationship with Gardner, who had moved back to California, during these years and the mentorship he provided. He describes how important it was to him to use his business school education to help people and benefit the community. Needle goes on to speak about the early planning of the John W. Gardner Center for Youth and Their Communities and his personal involvement as a consultant for the center. He describes his continued involvement with the Haas Center, EPASA, and the John Gardner Fellowship. He concludes the interview with thoughts on Gardner's character and the importance of his legacy.
 

Noor, Waseem 2018-03-09

Waseem Noor - Recordings
Waseem Noor - Transcript

Creator: Noor, Waseem
Creator: Mancini, Nancy
Abstract: Waseem Noor, executive director of Russell Reynolds Associates, a former John Gardner Public Service Fellow, and former president of the John Gardner Fellowship Association (JGFA), discusses being mentored by John W. Gardner and the important lessons he learned from Gardner's speeches and writings. Noor recalls his involvement with the Haas Center for Public Service as an undergraduate, where he developed his passion for public service. He recounts meeting John W. Gardner for the first time at a Haas Center event and being struck by Gardner's lack of superficiality. Noor discusses the power of Gardner's famous 1991 commencement address on renewal and leadership. He also talks about getting to know Gardner more closely through the Gardner Fellowship, noting the power of Gardner's understated mentoring approach. He explains how the desire to create a network to bring together both past and current fellows led to the creation of the John Gardner Fellowship Association. Noor finishes by reflecting on Gardner's impressive commitment to his family, his lessons on leadership, and the wonderful example that his life was.
 

Novogratz, Jacqueline 2020-02-14

Jacqueline Novogratz - Recordings
Jacqueline Novogratz - Transcript

Creator: Novogratz, Jacqueline
Creator: Mancini, Nancy
Abstract: Jacqueline Novogratz, CEO of Acumen, speaks about her friendship with John W . Gardner and his role as a mentor to her. Novogratz describes her childhood, growing up in many places due to her father's military career. She recalls meeting John W. Gardner while a student at Stanford's Graduate School of Business, and shares memories of taking classes with him. She also describes some of the ways in which Gardner advised her, including introducing her to Jing Lyman, the wife of Stanford President Dick Lyman. She reflects on her own career at Acumen and how Gardner's philosophies and lessons still impact her work. Throughout, Novogratz shares memories of interactions with Gardner and reflects on his legacy.
 

Osberg, Sally 2018-09-20

Sally Osberg - Recordings
Sally Osberg - Transcript

Creator: Osberg, Sally R.
Creator: Abel, Suzanne
Abstract: Sally Osberg, the founding executive director of the Children's Discovery Museum of San Jose and the president and CEO of the Skoll Foundation from 2001 to 2018, shares her perspectives on John W. Gardner and his influence on a younger generation of Silicon Valley entrepreneurs. Osberg describes her upbringing on the East Coast, her move to California, and the development of the Children's Discovery Museum of San Jose. She recalls meeting John W. Gardner through the American Leadership Forum and introducing him to Jeff Skoll. She offers details on Skoll's philanthropic activities and the concept of social entrepreneurship, reflects on how Gardner influenced Skoll and others, and speaks about Gardner's personality and lasting legacy.
 

Pham, Kien 2019-07-03

Kien Pham - Recordings
Kien Pham - Transcript

Creator: Pham, Kien
Creator: Mancini, Nancy
Abstract: Kien Pham, the president and co-founder of the Vietnam Foundation and vice chairman of the VietnamNet Media Group, reflects on the impact John W. Gardner and the community of White House Fellows have had on his life. Pham recalls immigrating to Colorado from Vietnam in 1977, his path to Stanford's Graduate School of Business, and his selection as a White House Fellow in the class of 1985-1986. He provides examples of meaningful connections with other White House Fellows, including his work at Tenneco with Michael Walsh and Dana Mead. He concludes by describing Gardner's wisdom and sharing memories from a White House Fellows trip to Vietnam.
 

Reese, Jennifer 2019-09-24

Jennifer Reese - Recordings
Jennifer Reese - Transcript

Creator: Reese, Jennifer
Creator: Abel, Suzanne
Abstract: Jennifer Reese shares memories of her grandparents John W . Gardner and Aida Marroquin Gardner. She describes spending summers at her grandparents' home in Chevy Chase, Maryland, and shares what she knows of the family history, including impressions of John Gardner's mother, Marie Burns. Reese reflects on her relationship with each of her grandparents, offering anecdotes and recollections that speak to the private aspects of their lives. She also recalls her time at Stanford and her writing career.
 

Reese, Justine 2019-03-18

Justine Reese - Transcript

Creator: Reese, Justine
Creator: Abel, Suzanne
Abstract: Justine Reese shares memories of her grandparents John W. Gardner and Aida Marroquin Gardner. Reese describes spending summers at her grandparent's home in Chevy Chase, Maryland, and offers impressions of her grandparents and her mother, Francesca Gardner. She describes her grandfather's willingness to share his network connections with her and her awareness of his high profile status and accomplishments and his many mentees. She also reflects on his legacy.

Conditions Governing Access

Audio recording available only by request to University Archives (universityarchives@stanford.edu)
 

Rockefeller, Sharon Percy 2017-09-28

Sharon Rockefeller - Recordings
Sharon Rockefeller - Transcript

Creator: Rockefeller, Sharon Percy, 1944-
Creator: Abel, Suzanne
Abstract: Sharon Percy Rockefeller is the longtime president and CEO of WETA, Washington DC's flagship PBS station. Married to retired Senator John D. "Jay" Rockefeller IV (D-WVA), she was also the First Lady of West Virginia when her husband served as governor in the early years of their marriage. Her friendship with John Gardner goes back many years. Gardner knew her father, Senator Charles "Chuck" Percy, (R-Illinois), and was friends with her father-in-law, John D. Rockefeller III. She attended Stanford, graduating in 1966 with a double major in French literature and political science. Rockefeller discusses her early years in California and Chicago and her father's transition from the CEO of Bell & Howell to running for political office. She recalls winning a Stanford in Government fellowship to work on the Hill for John V. Lindsay and then for Gerald Ford. She later became deeply engaged with the formation of the Stanford in Washington program and still serves on its advisory council. She also touches on the home invasion that led to the unsolved murder of her twin sister, Valerie, in 1966. Rockefeller explains how her experience campaigning with her father helped prepare her for the challenges of a Rockefeller aspiring to political office in a poor state like West Virginia. She reflects on her husband's challenges in living out his values as a member of the Rockefeller family. She discusses teaching in Head Start, the founding of Mountain Artisans, and her contributions in the early days of public radio and educational television. Rockefeller discusses serving on the Stanford Board of Trustees with John Gardner and Sandra Day O'Connor. She talks about being in a tiny minority of women on the board and the struggle to diversify its members. Gardner served on the board of the Rockefeller Brothers Fund, and Rockefeller discusses his role on the board and his resignation in the face of conflict over leadership succession. She recounts how she and Gardner would discuss the art of leadership and his advocacy for women in leadership roles. Finally, Rockefeller reviews notes from Cynthia Hahn Yothers, her former executive assistant who also worked with John Gardner for twenty years, recalling Gardner's varied contributions and several paths not taken.
 

Shulman, Lee S. 2018-12-06

Lee Shulman - Recordings
Lee Shulman - Transcript

Creator: Shulman, Lee S.
Creator: Schmidt-Posner, Jackie
Abstract: Lee Shulman, president of The Carnegie Foundation from 1997 to 2008 and a professor emeritus at Stanford's Graduate School of Education, describes his "close and episodic" relationship with John W. Gardner. He recalls how they came to know one another when Shulman was conceptualizing a national board for teaching and Gardner was a member of the Carnegie Commission on the Future of the Teaching Profession. He recalls advice Gardner gave him when he was considering the opportunity to assume the Carnegie presidency, reflects on Gardner's moral sensibility and writing style, and tells the story of how an in-depth conversation with Gardner on a flight from Washington, DC, led Gardner to present him with a cartoon drawn by James Thurber that was once owned by both William Benton and Robert Maynard Hutchins. Shulman also provides information on his own and his work in education and education policy and the path that led him to Stanford.
 

Sidebottom, Peter 2019-09-25-2019-11-22

Peter Sidebottom - Recordings
Peter Sidebottom - Transcript

Creator: Sidebottom, Peter J.
Creator: Abel, Suzanne
Abstract: Peter Sidebottom, a member of the first class of John Gardner Fellows in 1985-1986, describes his fellowship year with Mayor Henry Cisneros in San Antonio, Texas, and reflects on the impact Gardner, Cisneros, and the fellowship had on his life and career. He also shares memories of Gardner and his approach to mentoring and discusses the formation of the John Gardner Fellowship Association. Sidebottom begins by describing his path from Bishop, California, to Stanford and the origins of his interest in public policy. He recalls his involvement with the Haas Center for Public Service and the connections he made with University President Donald Kennedy and Catherine Milton. He recalls the process of applying for the newly-formed John Gardner Fellowship and how his assignment came about, and describes his active role in Mayor Cisneros's small office with major responsibilities that included coordinating the delivery of relief supplies after a major earthquake in Mexico City. He recalls how he came to know John W. Gardner and describes Gardner's effective co- mentoring approach and some of his memorable advice. He also discusses his role in facilitating Rick Stamberger's documentary about Gardner, shares memories of Aida Gardner and the formation of the John Gardner Fellowship Association, and reflects on Gardner's legacy.
 

Sievers, Bruce 2017-05-23

Bruce Sievers - Recordings
Bruce Sievers - Transcript

Creator: Sievers, Bruce R.
Creator: Abel, Suzanne
Abstract: Bruce Sievers, a senior leader in the public humanities and a Visiting Scholar at the Haas Center for Public Service and the Center on Philanthropy and Civil Society at Stanford, provides details about his career in the humanities councils of Montana and California and recounts key moments in John W. Gardner's engagement with Stanford and the Bay Area philanthropic community in the 1980s and 1990s. Topics covered include the decision of the Walter and Elise Haas Fund to support the John Gardner Public Service Fellowship, the establishment of the Public Service Center (now the Hass Center for Public Service) and the Center on Philanthropy and Civil Society (PACS Center), and the creation of the Miriam and Peter Haas Centennial Professorship in Public Service that brought Gardner back to Stanford from Washington, DC, in 1989. Sievers also reflects on Gardner's legacy, mentioning Gardner's work with Common Cause and Independent Sector as well as his writings, speeches, and ability to inspire people to action.
 

Smith, Marshall 2017-12-07

Bruce Sievers - Recordings
Bruce Sievers - Transcript

Creator: Sievers, Bruce R.
Creator: Schmidt-Posner, Jackie
Abstract: Marshall S. "Mike" Smith, a senior fellow at the Carnegie Foundation for the Advancement of Teaching, discusses his career path after graduating from Harvard University, talks John Gardner's return to Stanford University, and reflects on Gardner's legacy. Smith recounts directing research for a seminar on the 1966 Coleman Report on the equality of education. He then talks about coming to Stanford as the dean of the School of Education in 1986, where he made it his priority to increase the diversity of the faculty. He also discusses his joint appointment in the Graduate School of Education and the Graduate School of Business. Other topics Smith addressed include Gardner's work as president of the Carnegie Corporation, his tenure as secretary of the Department of Health, Education, and Welfare, and his turn to bottom-up advocacy as founder of Common Cause and Independent Sector. Smith concludes by reflecting on Gardner's broad strategic vision and productive career.
 

Somerville, Bill 2017-06-08

Bill Somerville - Recordings
Bill Somerville - Transcript

Creator: Somerville, Bill, 1932-
Creator: Schmidt-Posner, Jackie
Abstract: Bill Somerville, founder of the Philanthropic Ventures Foundation, discusses his early life in Berkeley, his long and productive career in philanthropy, and serving with John W. Gardner on the National Advisory Board of the Haas Center for Public Service at Stanford University. Somerville talks about growing up in Berkeley and later attending UC Berkeley. He then worked for the university, and he reflects on starting the minority recruiting program and the work-study program at Cal. He also discusses his friendship with J. Herman Blake. Somerville recounts his early work in philanthropy, including for the Alameda County Community Foundation and the Peninsula Community Foundation. He also talks about starting the Wright Institute at UC Berkeley, which offers graduate degrees in clinical psychology. He discusses his friendship and professional relationship with Thomas Ford, the famous real estate developer and philanthropist. Through Catherine Milton, Somerville became involved with the Haas Center, and he discusses his time on the National Advisory Board (NAB), including his role in starting fellowships focused on philanthropy such as the Tom Ford Fellowship. He discusses John Gardner's presence in board meetings, and describes Gardner as diplomatic and strategic, yet understated. He also talks about issues that arose during NAB meetings, including debates over offering students academic credit for public service, which Gardner supported. He recounts Gardner's role in pushing for service learning at Stanford.
 

Srinivasan, Srija 2017-08-01

Srija Srinivasan - Recordings
Srija Srinivasan - Transcript

Creator: Srinivasan, Srija
Creator: Feder, Abby
Abstract: Srija Srinivasan, deputy chief of the San Mateo County Health system, discusses studying at Stanford University, her time as a John Gardner Public Service Fellow, her career in health policy, and being mentored by John W. Gardner. Srinivasan majored in human biology as an undergraduate at Stanford, and she explains how Stanford President Donald Kennedy's emphasis on public service inspired her. As a John Gardner Public Service Fellow, she worked for the Government Accountability Office (then called the General Accounting Office) on health financing and policy issues. Srinivasan discusses that experience and expresses her appreciation for the mentorship of Janet Shikles at the GAO. Srinivasan also talks about the importance of the fellowship network coordinated by Jeanne Halleck. Srinivasan continued corresponding with Gardner after the fellowship, and she recalls the promptness and thoughtfulness of his responses, as well as his willingness to meet with her anytime she was on the Stanford campus. She remembers interviewing Gardner for a class she took while pursuing her MBA at Stanford, and was surprised to learn that, of all his accomplishments, Gardner felt that his writings had the greatest impact. She mentions being personally struck by his work, including Building Community. Srinivasan also discusses remaining involved in the fellowship through the John Gardner Fellowship Association and by serving on the selection committee. She remembers being struck by how excited John Gardner was about the fellowship. She recounts stories from the memorial service for Gardner held in Memorial Church and the weekend retreat for fellowship alumni held in Asilomar a year after his passing.
 

Stamberger, Rick 2017-09-22

Rick Stamberger - Recordings
Rick Stamberger - Transcript

Creator: Stamberger, Rick
Creator: Abel, Suzanne
Abstract: Rick Stamberger, president and CEO of SmartBrief, Inc. and a former White House fellow, discusses his early involvement with politics, entering the business world, and his work on the documentary on John W. Gardner titled John Gardner: Uncommon American. Stamberger discusses growing up in Youngstown, Ohio, and his work for Gerald Ford's presidential campaign. He recalls attending Northwestern University, transferring to Williams College where he studied History, and then becoming a reporter. He explains his decision to move to Washington, DC, to work for the National Cable Television Association. He then talks about his White House Fellowship working for Vice President George H.W. Bush, where he focused on encouraging tax reform and engaging the African-American community. Stamberger recounts his decision to attend Harvard Business School and working in consulting before founding SmartBrief. He also talks about serving on Barack Obama's transition team. Stamberger then discusses the process of creating John Gardner: Uncommon American and fundraising for it. He notes how difficult it was to find people willing to criticize Gardner. Stamberger reflects on Gardner's life and legacy, including Gardner's decision to leave the White House in protest of the Vietnam War, his productivity late into his life, his genuine interest in the lives of other people, and his commitment to his family. Stamberger concludes by discussing the singular importance of Gardner's example.
 

Stanton, Tim 2018-08-14

Tim Stanton - Recordings
Tim Stanton - Transcript

Creator: Stanton, Timothy K.
Creator: Schmidt-Posner, Jackie
Abstract: Tim Stanton, Associate Director and Director of the Haas Center for Public Service at Stanford from 1985 to 1999, shares his memories of John W. Gardner and the importance of service learning in higher education. Stanton begins by describing how while working at Cornell University he came across a piece written by Stanford president Don Kennedy on the importance of public service. He recalls meeting with Kennedy and Catherine Milton to learn about Stanford's Public Service Center, now the Haas Center for Public Service--a meeting that resulted in Stanton's hiring at Stanford. Stanton recalls first coming across John W. Gardner in high school when his mother gave him one of Gardner's books to read. He describes his admiration for Gardner upon his arrival at Stanford and the establishment of the Haas Professorship at the Public Service Center. He recalls how meaningful it was to later have Gardner on Stanford's campus and around the Public Service Center. Stanton emphasizes the importance of having Don Kennedy's support in furthering the role of public service in the Stanford education and describes the work that he and Gardner did with other universities as part of Campus Compact. He concludes the interview by reflecting on the importance of Gardner's legacy today.
 

Steyer, Elizabeth 2017-10-27

Elizabeth Steyer - Recordings
Elizabeth Steyer - Transcript

Creator: Steyer, Elizabeth Butler
Creator: Abel, Suzanne
Abstract: Elizabeth Butler Steyer, executive director of the Athletic Scholars Advancement Program (ASAP) and a former John Gardner Public Service Fellow, discusses developing an interest for public service as an undergraduate at Stanford University, her career in law as a child advocate, and John W. Gardner's mentorship. Steyer talks about her early life growing up in California and attending Stanford, where she studied Human Biology. She recounts becoming involved in the Public Service Center through a summer fellowship working for a theater company in Southern California. She then discusses her Gardner Fellowship working for the Children's Defense Fund in Washington, DC, where Gardner introduced her to Sandra Day O'Connor. Next, Steyer talks about her decision to attend Stanford Law School where she became involved with the East Palo Alto Community Law Project. She then discusses receiving a Skadden Fellowship and working with Legal Services for Children and the National Center for Youth Law. She reflects on joining ASAP as its first executive director and her work with the organization. Steyer also explains her involvement with the selection committee for the Gardner Fellowship, including changes to make the Fellowship more accessible. She discusses the creation of the John Gardner Fellowship Association. She concludes by reflecting on the importance of Gardner's writings, including Self-Renewal, and his unique mentorship style which emphasized sustained and genuine engagement with his mentees' personal lives.
 

Stroud, Susan 2018-04-18

Susan Stroud - Recordings
Susan Stroud - Transcript

Creator: Stroud, Susan
Creator: Abel, Suzanne
Abstract: Susan Stroud, a national leader in public service and education, discusses her early life, her long and productive career, and her interactions with John W. Gardner during the creation of Campus Compact, for which she served as the founding executive director. Stroud recounts growing up in a military family, studying English literature at Duke University and the University of Leicester, and later teaching in a low-income community on Martha's Vineyard after graduation. She then talks about working for the College Venture Consortium at Northeastern University and at Brown University. Stroud fondly recalls working with Howard Swearer, who was president of Brown at the time, to start the Center for Public Service there. While at Brown, Stroud began to coordinate public service efforts with other universities, and she explains how this collaboration eventually led to the creation of Campus Compact. She discusses the challenges that the new organization faced, including the issue of diversifying its participants beyond elite institutions. Other topics in this interview include her contribution to the creation of AmeriCorps and Learn to Serve during the Clinton administration; her work for the Ford Foundation on overseas programs, including higher education in South Africa following the end of Apartheid; serving as executive director for Innovations in Civic Participation; and the creation of the Talloires Network through Tufts University. Stroud discusses the enormous impact that Gardner had on the people with whom he worked, including the presidents of prominent universities. She highlights the importance of his role as a strategic thinker and public intellectual, pointing to his books such as Self-Renewal and On Leadership. She also emphasizes Gardner's belief in the responsibility that people have to serve society, regardless of their career or discipline.
 

Trimble, John Gardner 2018-07-16-2018-08-13

Gardner Trimble - Recordings
Gardner Trimble - Transcript

Creator: Trimble, John Gardner
Creator: Abel, Suzanne
Abstract: John Gardner Trimble shares memories of his grandparents John W. Gardner and Aida Gardner. Along with his mother and younger brother, Trimble lived with his grandparents during the 1970s in Chevy Chase, Maryland. He relates anecdotes from both that time and when the family later relocated to California, recalling his grandfather's work ethic, his more playful side, and his presence as a public figure. He also shares what he knows about his extended family's history, offers thoughts on his grandfather's life and legacy, and provides information about his own education and career.
 

Trimble, Stephanie Gardner 2019-04-19-2019-06-12

Stephanie Trimble - Interview

Creator: Trimble, Stephanie
Creator: Abel, Suzanne
Abstract: Stephanie Gardner Trimble, daughter of John W. Gardner, shares memories of her father and reflects on his legacy. Trimble shares what she knows about her father's upbringing, education, and early years of marriage with Aida Marroquin, before turning to her own memories of her childhood during World War II. She reflects on her father's career with the Carnegie Corporation in New York and later in Washington, DC, as a member of Lyndon B. Johnson's cabinet. She also speaks about the roles that her parents played in helping to raise her two sons. She concludes the interview by describing her father's final years at Stanford and reflecting on his legacy today. Throughout, she speaks about John W. Gardner's relationships with his family including his mother Marie Burns, his wife, his daughter Checka, and his grandchildren. Other topics covered include his work with the Office of Strategic Services; his political views and networks; and his legacy as a mentor.

Conditions Governing Access

Access to this interview is limited to approved researchers. Audio recordings are not available. Please contact University Archives (universityarchives@stanford.edu) if interested.
 

Trimble, William 2018-12-23

Billy Trimble - Recordings
Billy Trimble - Transcript

Creator: Trimble, William
Creator: Abel, Suzanne
Abstract: Billy Trimble, John W. Gardner's grandson, shares memories of his grandfather. Along with his mother and older brother, Trimble lived with John and Aida Gardner during the 1970s in Chevy Chase, Maryland. Trimble recalls his grandparents entertaining members of Washington society, his grandfather's work ethic, and the more playful side of Gardner, who fulfilled a sort of father figure role in the boys' lives.
 

Vargas, Carole Bialek 2019-06-22

Carole Vargas - Recordings
Carole Vargas - Transcript

Creator: Vargas, Carole Bialek
Creator: Abel, Suzanne
Abstract: Carole Vargas shares memories about her early life and education, her year as a John Gardner Fellow at Independent Sector and advice she received from Gardner during that time, and her career in public service. Vargas describes her early exposure to public service and politics while growing up in Carmel, California, and describes some of the challenges she faced as an undergraduate at UC Berkeley. She recalls how she came to be a member of the first class of Gardner Fellows in 1985-1986 and her placement at Independent Sector. She talks about the opportunities the fellowship offered and tells stories that illustrate some of the difficulties fellows encountered during the program's early years, including slim financial resources and a lack of support for finding housing. She reflects on how her Independent Sector mentor, Sandra Gray, taught her how to recover from mistakes--a lesson she has taken with her throughout her career. She concludes by reflecting on some of the opportunities and challenges facing the John Gardner Fellowship Association.
 

Wertheimer, Fred 2018-04-17

Fred Wertheimer - Recordings
Fred Wertheimer - Transcript

Creator: Wertheimer, Fred
Creator: Abel, Suzanne
Abstract: Fred Wertheimer, president and CEO of Democracy 21, discusses his early life, his long career as an advocate for transparency in government, and his personal and professional relationship with John W. Gardner. Wertheimer recounts memories from his childhood in Brooklyn and from his time at the University of Michigan and Harvard Law School. He discusses going to work for the Securities and Exchange Commission in Washington, DC, and then joining the staff of Silvio O. Conte, a member of the House of Representatives from Massachusetts. Wertheimer talks about joining Common Cause, where he met Gardner. He discusses his role in the organization's work on issues including campaign finance reform, lobbying reform, and ethics rules. He also reflects on his tenure as CEO, including working with Archibald Cox, who was then the chair of the board. He elaborates on his decision to leave Common Cause in order to create Democracy 21. Throughout the interview, Wertheimer discusses the life and legacy of John Gardner. Topics covered include Gardner's personal integrity, pride in authorship, decision to leave Common Cause, mentorship style, skill in building organizations, commitment to family, decision not to take Robert Kennedy's Senate seat, and intellectual charisma.
 

Wirth, Timothy E. 2019-10-04

Tim Wirth - Recordings
Tim Wirth - Transcript

Creator: Wirth, Timothy E.
Creator: Abel, Suzanne
Abstract: Former United States Senator Timothy Wirth shares memories of John W. Gardner, describes his experience as a member of the White House Fellows Class of 1967-1968, and recalls moments from his career in public service and politics. Wirth recalls how his time at Stanford's Graduate School of Education led him to apply to the White House Fellows program, where he was assigned to work with Gardner in the Department of Health, Education and Welfare (HEW). Wirth shares memories from his fellowship year, his time at HEW, and life in the late 1960s in Washington, DC. He also describes his later involvement with the White House Fellows Association and reflects on the future of the program and Gardner's legacy.
 

Yeung, Linda 2018-04-14

Linda Yeung - Recordings
Linda Yeung - Transcript

Creator: Yeung, Linda
Creator: Wyman, Lyn
Abstract: Linda Yeung, a John Gardner Fellow from UC Berkeley in 1988-89, shares memories of John Gardner and of the community built by the fellows since his passing. Yeung begins the interview by describing her parents' immigration to the United States from Hong Kong and her path to UC Berkeley. She describes her fellowship year at the Office of the US Trade Representative working on trade issues in Asia under Peter Allgeier, and she recalls seeking advice from Gardner about relocating to the Bay Area from Los Angeles years after her fellowship had ended. Yeung describes her graduate work at the Fletcher School at Tufts and her experiences as a Coro Fellow in Public Affairs, including her work with Linda Griego, the deputy mayor of Los Angeles. She concludes the interview by speaking about Gardner's legacy and the community the fellows have created to keep his memory alive.
 

Yothers, Cynthia Hahn 2018-04-25

Cynthia Yothers - Recordings
Cynthia Yothers - Transcript

Creator: Yothers, Cynthia Hahn
Creator: Abel, Suzanne
Abstract: Cynthia Hahn Yothers, who worked as executive assistant to John W. Gardner for twenty years, discusses her early life, her career, and her personal and professional relationship with John Gardner. Yothers recounts moving to Washington, DC, and getting a job with Common Cause, where she met Gardner. She describes the vibrant energy in the organization during its early days when it tackled issues including Watergate, the Vietnam War, and education reform. She characterizes Gardner as an inspirational leader, principled and disciplined. She emphasizes that he was willing to take unpopular action, even if it meant alienating friends. Yothers talks about Gardner's decision to start Independent Sector with Brian O'Connell and discusses Gardner's participation as a member of the Board of Trustees at Stanford University. Working with him for so long, Yothers became well acquainted with Gardner and gained insight into his personality. She describes him as witty, shy, and sometimes absent minded. She relates information about his early life and his family and discusses her decision not to accompany him when he returned to California.
 

John Gardner Fellowship Association Oral History Project 2021-01-2021-09

Scope and Contents

This series contains fourteen interviews with individuals who were recepients of the John Gardner Public Service Fellowship. Most interviews contain a transcript, audio file, and vido file.
In 2020, inspired by the John W. Gardner Legacy Oral History Project, members of the John Gardner Fellowship Association (JGFA) launched an oral history project to capture the genesis, history, and development of the John Gardner Public Service Fellowship and JGFA as the fellowship, established in 1985, approached its forty-year anniversary. The questions guiding the project were: 1) How has the John Gardner Fellowship Association and John Gardner inspired individuals to dedicate themselves to public service? What impact have the Fellows had on the Stanford/ Berkeley community, at the state level, and at the federal level? How can the John Gardner Fellowship and JGFA continue to have an impact for the next forty years?
Interviewees included those involved in administering the fellowship and organizing JGFA, fellows who have spent their lives in public service, and more recent fellows who are just beginning their careers. Conducted by former fellows, interviews explore questions about the origins and goals of both the fellowship and JGFA; successes, challenges, and change over time of the organization; and reflections on the future of the fellowship. Fellows were asked to reflect on the impact of the fellowship on their own lives, the highs and lows of their work in public service, how major world and political events have intersected with their work in public service, and more.
 

Bimes, Terri 2021-08-21

Terri Bimes - Recordings
Terri Bimes - Transcript

Creator: Bimes, Terri
Creator: Yeung, Linda
Abstract: Terri Bimes speaks about her experience working as the UC Berkeley administrator for the John Gardner Fellowship Program, as well as the John Gardner Fellowship Association and the commitment of program alums. She additionally discusses the leaders of the Institute of Governmental Studies at UC Berkeley that supported the fellowship and how she has enjoyed seeing fellows and alums, like Mondaire Jones, flourish in their respective careers. Bimes highlights her time working with the Stanford directors of the fellowship, especially Jeanne Halleck, forming connections with the fellows, and the importance of fundraising for the fellowship at Berkeley.
 

Cacciotti, Jerry 2021-08-14

Jerry Cacciotti - Recordings
Jerry Cacciotti - Transcript

Creator: Cacciotti, Jerry
Creator: Yeung, Linda
Abstract: Jerry Cacciotti (John Gardner Fellow Class of 1985) speaks about the beginning of the John Gardner Fellowship, including being part of the first cohort of fellows and working with Congressman Lee Hamilton. He details the creation of the John Gardner Fellowship Association (JGFA), fundraising for the fellowship, and challenges with fundraising for Berkeley program. Cacciotti also discusses JGFA retreats at Asilomar and Washington, DC, working with alum Mondaire Jones and his success, and the importance of collaboration between past and present fellows.
 

Carrasco, Anthony 2021-01-22

Anthony Carrasco - Recordings
Anthony Carrasco - Transcript

Creator: Carrasco, Anthony
Creator: Ramirez, Marco
Abstract: Anthony Carrasco, a member of the Gardner Fellows Class of 2019, reflects on his interest in public service and his year as a John Gardner Fellow. Carrasco spent his fellowship year working with Compass Family Services, one of the largest homeless service providers in San Francisco. He speaks to the meaningful work he was able to observe and how it impacted his views on pursuing a career in public service. Carrasco also describes how both his fellowship year and the work being done at Compass was impacted by the start of the COVID-19 pandemic.
 

Chandra, Subodh 2021-02-06

Subodh Chandra - Recordings
Subodh Chandra - Transcript

Creator: Chandra, Subodh
Creator: Fox, Sean
Abstract: Subodh Chandra (John Gardner Fellow, Class of 1990) speaks about how growing up in Oklahoma as a child to Indian immigrants influenced his commitment to public service, and his engagement with public service during his undergraduate years at Stanford. Chandra discusses his experience as a John Gardner Fellow and his close relationship with his mentor, then Ohio Governor Richard F. Celeste. He also details his impressive career in the legal field, including working as an assistant US attorney, being recruited to be the law director of the City of Cleveland, and running to be Ohio's attorney general. Chandra talks about his work on the Tamir Rice case, starting his own public interest law firm from the private sector, and how the John Gardner Fellowship Association can be improved.
 

Feineh, Sam 2021-01-22

Sam Feineh - Recordings
Sam Feineh - Transcript

Creator: Feineh, Sam
Creator: Bimes, Terri
Abstract: Sam Feineh (John Gardner Fellow, Class of 2019) discusses his upbringing in an Ethiopian Christian household, learning the values of education and public service, and being involved with Stanford in Government during his undergraduate career. Feineh describes creating a panel about racial justice reform in the US during his freshman college year, interning for Congressman Ami Bera, and working with the American Civil Liberties Union National Prison Project. He shares memories of his John Gardner Fellowship placement at the Vera Institute working in bail and sentencing reform, his mentors Insha Rahman and Jim Parsons, and the effect the COVID-19 pandemic had on bail reform. Feineh emphasizes the importance of providing more opportunities for current fellows and alums to connect and how he credits much of his career to the fellowship.
 

Flores, Andrea 2021-01-19

Andrea Flores - Recordings
Andrea Flores - Transcript

Creator: Flores, Andrea
Creator: Ramirez, Marco
Abstract: Andrea Flores (John Gardner Fellow, Class of 2019) speaks about growing up in Waukegan, Illinois and seeing inequality between her community and others, applying for the John Gardner Fellowship at Stanford, and the process of finding her mentor and placement. She describes her placement at America's Voice as a fellow and as an employee, her impactful mentor Ur Jaddou, and the challenges she faced working during the COVID-19 pandemic. Flores reflects on immigration legislation and offers her thoughts on how the fellowship can improve by reinforcing its alumni network and offering additional support for housing and discretionary funding for emergencies.

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Huynh, Audrey 2021-01-28

Audrey Huynh - Recordings
Audrey Huynh - Transcript

Creator: Huynh, Audrey
Creator: Bimes, Terri
Abstract: Audrey Huynh (John Gardner Fellow, Class of 2020) discusses growing up in a biracial family in Charlotte, North Carolina, her journey to attending Stanford, and her involvement in different Stanford groups, including the Stanford Human Rights Center, Stanford in Government, and Stanford in Washington. She shares memories of her fellowship at the Capital Area Immigrants' Rights Coalition and describes how influential her mentor Kica Matos has been. Huynh also reflects on staying grounded in one's original source of motivation, how the COVID-19 pandemic affected her fellowship, and what she believes the John Gardner Fellowship Association should do to build community.

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Ingersoll, Jeremiah 2021-02-07

Jeremiah Ingersoll - Recordings
Jeremiah Ingersoll - Transcript

Creator: Ingersoll, Jeremiah
Abstract: Jerry Ingersoll is Director of Job Corps for the US Forest Service in Washington, DC. He's served with the Forest Service since 1987 in Arkansas, Nevada, Colorado, Alaska, and Oregon. Ingersoll earned a BS in Forestry and an MS in Wildland Resource Science from the University of California, Berkeley. In 1985, Ingersoll was named to the first cohort of John Gardner Fellows, serving in the Forest Service's national headquarters. After returning to Berkeley to complete his master's degree, Ingersoll entered Federal service in 1987 as a forester on the Ouachita National Forest in Hot Springs, Arkansas. Over thirty-four years in the Forest Service, Ingersoll has been a land management planner, a district ranger, a national program manager, a deputy forest supervisor, forest supervisor, and deputy regional forester, gradually working up the civilian General Schedule to the Senior Executive Service. From 2010 to 2018 he was Forest Supervisor on the Siuslaw National Forest in Oregon. As Director of Job Corps, Ingersoll oversees twenty-four Civilian Conservation Centers across the country, where 3500 young people have the opportunity to change their lives through training, education, and leadership development. Jerry and his wife Amelia met at Berkeley, have been married for thirty-four years, nine moves, and three children--now grown and successful citizens of their own.
 

Klyman, Kevin 2021-01-25

Kevin Klyman - Recordings
Kevin Klyman - Transcript

Creator: Klyman, Kevin
Creator: Ramirez, Marco
Abstract: Kevin Klyman, a graduate of UC Berkeley and a 2019 Gardner Fellow, reflects on his fellowship year and experiences. Klyman describes growing up in Evanston, Illinois, and how his interest in public service and foreign relations led him to apply for the Gardner Fellowship. He describes his fellowship placement at the United Nations Global Pulse in New York, including a trip to Uganda. Klyman reflects on how both his fellowship year and his personal life were impacted by the COVID-19 pandemic. He concludes by speaking about the John Gardner Fellowship Association and how the fellowship year prepared him to move forward in his professional life.
 

Lozano, Mayra 2021-01-21

Mayra Lozano - Recordings
Mayra Lozano - Transcript

Creator: Lozano, Mayra
Creator: Bimes, Terri
Abstract: Mayra Lozano (John Gardner Fellow, Class of 2020) speaks about her immigration from Mexico to Los Angeles, navigating the university as an immigrant, and the origins of her commitment to public service. Additionally, Lozano discusses organizing around labor and immigration during her undergraduate career at Berkeley and working with the University of Illinois School of Public Health and Centro de Trabajadores Unidos. She speaks about her fellowship placement at the Immigrant Defenders Law Center and its Children's Representation Project and the Family Reunification Program, as well as her mentors Joyce Noche and Yliana Johansen-Mendez. Lozano also discusses the difficulties she faced during the COVID-19 pandemic, how her fellowship placement has contributed to her current policy work on the Senate Banking, Housing, and Urban Affairs Committee, and the need to recruit in diverse places for the fellowship.

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Podesta, Heather 2021-08-13

Heather Podesta - Recordings
Heather Podesta - Transcript

Creator: Podesta, Heather
Creator: Moguel, David L., 1965-
Abstract: Heather Miller Podesta (John Gardner Fellow, Class of 1993) recalls being encouraged to apply to the John Gardner Fellowship as a student at UC Berkeley, her interview, and her fellowship in the office of Senator Bill Bradley, where she worked as a legislative fellow on NAFTA and on an FAA reauthorization bill. She also describes her career after the fellowship, which included working in a law firm on maritime and aviation issues, working for the Air Transport Association as assistant general counsel during 9/11, and then returning to Capitol Hill and eventually starting her own government relations firm. Additionally, Podesta mentions being sexually harassed at one of her early jobs and reflects on her support system throughout her career. Podesta credits her experiences and success to the John Gardner Fellowship and talks about fundraising and fellowship updates with interviewer David Moguel.
 

Sidebottom, Peter 2021-01-09

Peter Sidebottom - Recordings
Peter Sidebottom - Transcript

Creator: Sidebottom, Peter J.
Creator: Moguel, David L., 1965-
Abstract: Peter Sidebottom (John Gardner Fellow, Class of 1985) reflects on how his upbringing in rural California interested him in public service and what it was like to be part of the inaugural class of John Gardner Fellows. He describes his fellowship with Henry Cisneros, the former mayor of San Antonio, and the different opportunities with which Cisneros provided him. Sidebottom also discusses his time working at McKinsey, memories of John Gardner, the importance of resilience, and today's politics and presidency.
 

Vargas, Carole Bialek 2021-08-17

Carole Vargas - Recordings
Carole Vargas - Transcript

Creator: Vargas, Carole Bialek
Creator: Yeung, Linda
Abstract: Carole Vargas (John Gardner Fellows, Class of 1985) recalls being part of the first class of John Gardner Fellows, including meeting notable individuals associated with the program, hearing how the fellowship came about, and working at Independent Sector with mentors Virginia Hodgkins and Sandra Gray. She also shares memories of and advice given to her by John Gardner, her experience at the first fellows retreat at Asilomar, and why the John Gardner Fellowship Association (JGFA) was formed. Vargas speaks about her career in public education, being a public elementary school principal and the highs and lows associated with her job, and the importance of reflection and following one's own interests.
 

Interview with the Founders of the John Gardner Fellowship Association 2021-09-11

JGFA Founders - Recordings
JGFA Founders - Transcript

Creator: Noor, Waseem
Creator: Fox, Sean
Creator: Welner, Jon
Creator: Yeung, Linda
Abstract: Sean Fox, Waseem Noor, Jon Welner, and Linda Yeung, founding members of the John Gardner Fellowship Association (JGFA), discuss the formation of JGFA, the defining moment of John Gardner's passing, and the individuals who were instrumental in the association's creation. The group also reflects on the 2002 JGFA retreat at Asilomar, issues of fundraising and governance, and the technological transformation of JGFA. In addition to talking about the unity between Stanford and Berkeley through the fellowship, the group speaks about the legacy of JGFA and the state of bipartisanship today, and shares memories of John W. Gardner.